An update on Bob Lazar -- by George Knapp

In this post, I wrote something on the media attention that most hoaxsters seek. I've always found Bob Lazar to be odd, in this respect, as he told his story and "went away" so to speak. I sent George Knapp a link to this post and asked for his input. George was gracious enough to not only correct some misconceptions that I, and others, have had about Bob Lazar, but to add some of his own analysis and thoughts. George has allowed me to share his thoughts here on ATS.

Thanks George!

Posted by Permission

From: GEORGE KNAPP, KLAS-TV, Las Vegas, NV

"FLASH" UPDATE ON S4 / AREA 51 SCIENTIST ROBERT S "Bob" LAZAR!

I certainly don't have any problems with people asking questions or
speculating about Lazar. That's what thinking people are supposed to do.
>From the beginning, I have acknowledged in many public forums that there
are several unanswered questions about Bob that understandably give rise
to assorted theories and viewpoints. Regarding this particular
scenario, let me add a few details that may shed some light.

Bob isn't talking about UFOs anymore (except to me when I pester him
every few years or so.) But keep in mind that he didn't like to talk
about UFOs from the beginning. He thought it was all nonsense before he
worked "out there." It took me 8 months to get him to agree to go on
camera at all.

For a time, when things were hot and heavy with his story, he opened up
to other interviewers and probably even enjoyed it at times, but it
didn't last. He was uncomfortable being a part of the UFO scene,
DESPISED most UFO researchers, and turned down dozens of requests for
paid appearances at UFO gatherings.

(The one exception was an appearance at the A'Le'Inn, which was done as
a favor to Joe and Pat Travis, but which caused him considerable grief
in the long run.)

I am absolutely certain that if he had never been given such a high
profile in my news reports, his dalliance with a LV hooker would never
have been made into a major news event here and may not have even been
prosecuted. So, does he have reasons for wanting to put the UFO field
behind him? Not a tough call.

Bob hasn't "fallen into" any government grant money. If you care to
look up the most recent TV reports I wrote, you will see how he has been
treated by government agencies at his new home. United Nuclear isn't
a new company. He first formed that company before he moved to LV. He
had a contract to make low-level radiation probes for Los Alamos
National Lab -- you know, that's the lab where he supposedly never
worked.

The contract continued even after he went public with his stories about
S-4. Strange, but true. It took awhile for the LANL folks to put two
and two together and realize that Bob, the radiation probe supplier,
was also Bob the UFO guy! Frankly, I think some of them got a kick out
of it.

It's no mystery where he got the money to move to New Mexico and build
his own accelerator. He sold his house in LV, along with his jet car,
and a lot of other stuff. His new wife liquidated her property as well.
They bought a place in the country and started to rebuild United Nuclear
as an on-line business. In the beginning, I know that they sold uranium
pellets that they found and dug up in the desert.

They were as surprised as anyone to find out how many online customers
wanted to own a nugget of raw, if low grade, uranium. They were also
surprised to discover how much law enforcement interest their little
venture attracted. They struggled at first but then slowly expanded
their product line to include an assortment of gadgets, novelty items,
and science equipment, and the business blossomed.

Today, they sell a whole range of products and are doing well. The
30-foot particle accelerator in Bob's lab isn't much of a mystery
either. Bob built it from scratch -- not bad for a guy who supposedly
has no scientific credentials -- but it's not the first time. When he
lived in LV, he had a smaller accelerator in his bedroom, also made from
scratch.

He uses the new accelerator in the production of a stable form of
hydrogen fuel since another of his side businesses is a hydrogen
conversion kit that can be installed in pretty much any kind of car.

The Lazar's have a Corvette and an SUV that both run on hydrogen. The
vehicles can still burn regular gas if necessary, but Lazar told me last
summer that he hasn't had to visit a gas station in more than a year.
I'm sure all bogus scientists could do the same if they applied
themselves.

I produced one story that went into some detail about Lazar's hydrogen
system but it didn't get into the reasons why the system is not being
mass marketed, except for one item -- a shortage of solar panels. Bob
uses solar panels in the production of the hydrogen fuel, but he said
there is some kind of bottleneck in the production of such panels. Maybe
there is too much demand, but I'm only guessing.

I visited his home. I saw the hydrogen system. I rode in the cars. I
witnessed his low-key, modestly successful business operation. In my
opinion, he's never been happier. Why in the world would he choose an
idyllic life in a picturesque part of rural New Mexico, doing exactly
what he wants to do, and forego further forays into the always pleasant
world of UFOs?

Hmmm,... let me think about it.

In the more than 16 years I've known Lazar, I never heard him talk about
UFOs or Area 51 unless I was working on a story and pressed him about
it, or unless someone in a grocery store recognized him and struck up an
unwanted conversation. We've spent a lot of time together - at his
home, at my home, at Gene Huff's, at John Lear's, at LANL, in
restaurants, in bars, on road trips, and out in the desert on assorted
adventures.

The subject of UFOs rarely came up except when we were joking about it
or were privately castigating some UFO goofball like Bill Cooper. I'm
NOT saying that Lazar's claims can all be verified beyond doubt. He
knows, and I know, that this is not the case. I'm just saying that Bob's
choice to avoid the UFO limelight is not all that hard to understand if
you know him.

I would also posit that IF the secret government were to offer him a big
payday in exchange for his future silence, my guess is that he would
take it in a heartbeat because

a) he doesn't want to talk about this stuff anyway, and;

b) since he has already spilled all the beans that he has to spill.

If someone in the U.S. "secret govt." wants to pay him to stop saying
what he has already said, please contact me and I will broker the deal!

I want to emphasize to your UFO Thread List that I realize many people
have problems with Lazar's story. I'm not saying that his new life in
New Mexico constitutes proof of his prior claims. I have my own opinion,
and other people have theirs.

In any case, Bob Lazar IS and remains an interesting guy....

- GEORGE KNAPP

Fantastic. answered quite abit. thanks to Bob and george and especially Centrist for always bringing intrigue to the minds of the thinker. I don't have any questions now...I guess the only thing I can really ask is...'what would he talk about at a bar?" especially, if we paid a visit to General Jose'quervo in the hidden base at the topshelf



[edit on 22-1-2006 by waffleprime]

Thanks for that

Nice read, verry interesting. I have always found lazar's story compelling. If that man is telling the truth, he must be the luckiest man in civilian history. Knowing all that information, I beat taht knowing this kinkd of information would give a hard-on to any of the members in this site. Including my self

[edit on 22-1-2006 by Cabanman]

Hi Centrist,

What a great scoop! Many thanks for sharing.

I've always thought Bob Lazar's story was given great credence by the US government's apparent attempt to wipe his education and working records. And of course the pay-slip was very puzzling.

Best Wishes

J

this has obviously been kanoodling around inside your head for quite some time centrist.

Nice work, giving you two fo these

Spiderj

Centrist- Thanks for that very intersting and insightful read.
Like most subjects and participants in UFO cases, another case that may never see closure.

In case you guys aren't aware... the Bob lazar site is back up. www.boblazar.com and it is complete... lot's of interesting info there. Have fun for hours.

Nice post Centrist, very interesting read and it's reassured my own opinion that Lazar had something credible to say.

Burisch on the other hand........If he's a high level black ops scientist and his wife an ex member of MJ then I'm Spartacus! It's people like them that detract all reality and credibility from Ufology, such a shame.

Originally posted by timb3r
Burisch on the other hand........If he's a high level black ops scientist and his wife an ex member of MJ then I'm Spartacus! It's people like them that detract all reality and credibility from Ufology, such a shame.

It wouldn't be the first time that I've said that the biggest problem with ufology is the ufologists. To their credit, though, no ufologist of any merit has ever given credence to the Burisch story. You don't see any SciFi channel specials about him, nor has even managed to provide a shred of evidence that backs up any of his claims... just this apparent wild-eyed fantasy that many people think was cooked-up by him and Marcia McDowell. More interestingly, the Burisch folks have sought attention for their story no matter how ridiculous or strange it's gotten.

Bob Lazar, on the other hand, told his story and then went back to business. Not the stereotypical hoaxster, huh? I think George Knapp has done a commendable job of bucking the mainstream ufologists who have written off Bob Lazar because he doesn't fit in their various theories. Maybe that, or they just don't know what to make of him. There's been so much false, inaccurate, or just plain fabricated information passed around over the years, it's impossible to tell what elements are truthful and which are not.

I've always had a feeling that Bob will be vindicated if an when the truth comes out. Chances are, however, that much truth may never be known since many of the people who could tell us fact from fiction will have passed on before we get to that point.

Centrist,

Since you have direct correspondance with George Knapp, would you mind asking him if he believes Bob's story since he has gotten to know the man so well. Geroge "implies" that he does from his reponse to you but never really comes out and says that he believes in Bob. And possibly why he does or does not.

[edit on 23-1-2006 by Truthforall]

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Originally posted by Centrist

There's been so much false, inaccurate, or just plain fabricated information passed around over the years, it's impossible to tell what elements are truthful and which are not.

This is too true and what makes it worse than the people spreading this sort of thing, is the people who actually believe it, thus we have an ever expanding circle of rubbish being filtered through the ranks.......Chinese Whispers for the gullible !

I agree with you on Lazar though, but I don't think we've heard the last from him yet.

[edit on 23-1-2006 by timb3r]

Is there any correlation between Lazars story and David Adairs story? I know it was two different time periods but I was wondering if there may be any common denominators between them and their observations. A link could prove valuable in providing credibility for both.

Originally posted by Truthforall
Centrist,

Since you have direct correspondance with George Knapp, would you mind asking him if he believes Bob's story since he has gotten to know the man so well. Geroge "implies" that he does from his reponse to you but never really comes out and says that he believes in Bob. And possibly why he does or does not.

You can ask him yourself if you like! georges email is available here.

www.klas-tv.com...

[edit on 23-1-2006 by Jeddyhi]

Originally posted by Jeddyhi

Originally posted by Truthforall
Centrist,

Since you have direct correspondance with George Knapp, would you mind asking him if he believes Bob's story since he has gotten to know the man so well. Geroge "implies" that he does from his reponse to you but never really comes out and says that he believes in Bob. And possibly why he does or does not.

You can ask him yourself if you like! georges email is available here.






www.klas-tv.com...

[edit on 23-1-2006 by Jeddyhi]

I just sent him an e-mail. Thanks for the link. I just thought a one person correspondance who has gotten thru to him would be better. We will see if he responds or not.

Here is what I wrote to George:


Mr. Knapp,

I have read your response to a member of the forum Above Top Secret in
regards to Bob Lazar. It is obviously that you know Mr. Lazar on a personal level.
From your response it was not clear if you believe in his story or not.
Could you verify what you believe and why. It would certianly be wonderful if you
would join this forum for further discussion about Bob or what other facts
you have to bear on the subject of UFOs. There are alot of bright people who
care a great deal about this subject.




This is his response:

I would be happy to participate in your exchanges and am familiar with ATS. It's a good group, as you say. My only hangup is time. I'm spending a few hours online each night responding to questions, criticisms, and nasty attacks on the book I co-authored, Hunt for the Skinwalker. Plus, I work long hours at my regular TV job while also writing a newspaper column. I'll try to check in whenever I can.

I don't have a quick and easy answer to your question about Bob. It's complicated stuff and I don't want to say something off the cuff that might give the wrong impression. Basically, I believe that he is telling the truth as he knows it. That statement doesn't come close to explaining the full picture. Telling the whole story, including some of the things that haven't been reported, would be quite an undertaking and I simply can't do it right now. I will try to chime in when I can and maybe address smaller bites at the apple.





[edit on 24-1-2006 by Truthforall]

Originally posted by Truthforall
Here is what I wrote to George:


Mr. Knapp,

I have read your response to a member of the forum Above Top Secret in
regards to Bob Lazar. It is obviously that you know Mr. Lazar on a personal level.
From your response it was not clear if you believe in his story or not.
Could you verify what you believe and why. It would certianly be wonderful if you
would join this forum for further discussion about Bob or what other facts
you have to bear on the subject of UFOs. There are alot of bright people who
care a great deal about this subject.




This is his response:

I would be happy to participate in your exchanges and am familiar with ATS. It's a good group, as you say. My only hangup is time. I'm spending a few hours online each night responding to questions, criticisms, and nasty attacks on the book I co-authored, Hunt for the Skinwalker. Plus, I work long hours at my regular TV job while also writing a newspaper column. I'll try to check in whenever I can.

I don't have a quick and easy answer to your question about Bob. It's complicated stuff and I don't want to say something off the cuff that might give the wrong impression. Basically, I believe that he is telling the truth as he knows it. That statement doesn't come close to explaining the full picture. Telling the whole story, including some of the things that haven't been reported, would be quite an undertaking and I simply can't do it right now. I will try to chime in when I can and maybe address smaller bites at the apple.





[edit on 24-1-2006 by Truthforall]

His response about Bob seems like a cop out...

His response about Bob seems like a cop out...


He really can not comment on this broad question for he has much to loose. But he will respond to more specific questions and will give only facts as he knows them.

Basically, I believe that he is telling the truth as he knows it.

I don't think that's much of a cop-out. I think that's a fairly eloquent way of expressing optimism toward Bob's version of events. There are probably still quite a few unknowns -- I think George is smart to state what his basic beliefs are, based on what he's learned, and leave the door open if more is ever learned.

You have voted Centrist for the Way Above Top Secret award. You have two more votes this month

Really great stuff Centrist

I have also been intrigued by Lazars Story. The Fact that he never seemed to " Cash in" on his story adds alot in my book.

When the stuff about his background or lack of it came out I was disappointed to say the least. But the more I think of it really besides killing him doing something to wreck his creditablity would be the best thing for anyone covering up the truth to do.

After he first came out killing him would only have added credence to his story so it might not have been possible if indeed he is telling the truth.

Originally posted by Centrist

Basically, I believe that he is telling the truth as he knows it.

I don't think that's much of a cop-out. I think that's a fairly eloquent way of expressing optimism toward Bob's version of events. There are probably still quite a few unknowns -- I think George is smart to state what his basic beliefs are, based on what he's learned, and leave the door open if more is ever learned.

ive heard George on the Art Bell show , tell Art Bell that he didnt believe in Lazaar or his story . Actually ive heard him say this several times in the past few yrs.
Also heard him talk about his Skinwalker book --- i think its just another way to make money off the people grasping for straws.

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